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« Απάντηση #6690 στις: Φεβρουάριος 19, 2015, 14:07:27 μμ »
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« Απάντηση #6691 στις: Φεβρουάριος 19, 2015, 14:08:15 μμ »
Στέλιο μου θα στο πω  :D
με στεναχωρας  ;D
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ποινη 2 δυνατες φωτο  στο αγαπημενο μας θεμα  :D
με το που επιστρέψω...;) γιατί τώρα είμαι στο δρόμο  :D
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« Απάντηση #6693 στις: Φεβρουάριος 19, 2015, 16:48:34 μμ »
Δε θυμιζει seiko...
Λογικα φτηνο θα ειναι παντως...
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« Απάντηση #6694 στις: Φεβρουάριος 19, 2015, 17:12:26 μμ »
Δε θυμιζει seiko...
Λογικα φτηνο θα ειναι παντως...
απο την τιμή απο την Seiko 25000γιεεεεν δλδ κάπου 190 ευρώ..αν είναι jdm με ένα καλό καπελάκι...και 250 εγώ σου λεω..άνετα το βαράω.. πολύ ξεχωριστό..μου αρέσει ο κίτρινος δείκτης υπερβολικά....ΝΙΚΟ ΜΟΥ ΕΒΑΛΕΣ ΦΩΤΙΑ.... :'(
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« Απάντηση #6695 στις: Φεβρουάριος 19, 2015, 19:31:19 μμ »


Seiko 62MAS – The First Professional Diver Watch By Seiko

Seiko 62MAS – The First Professional Diver Watch By Seiko
Posted by Michael Stockton on Feb 18, 2015
Ask a vintage Seiko collector about their area(s) of focus and the responses are myriad. Some are into chronographs, some like Grand Seikos, King Seikos or Lord Marvels. Others may veer off into the outer reaches of quartz, Vanac’s, DX’s or Alpinists. While I appreciate this and often find myself venturing into the realm of several of these styles, I have a particular affinity to one genre: the divers.

Yes, dive watches, new and old, have been and are currently quite popular. I think most collectors like the fact that the watches generally have a masculine, purpose-built look, but there’s also the appeal that the watches generally have a capability, in-depth, far beyond what most of us are willing or able to explore. Could it be this unwrapped potential in a dive watch that makes it so interesting? Perhaps, and when considering vintage dive watches, I think it also takes many of us back to thoughts of Jacques Cousteau, James Bond, or, maybe, even Captain Nemo on his Nautilus. Well, whatever the reason, we seem to lust after them and do a more than efficient job of pumping up the prices of vintage pieces, no matter the maker. Just take a look at eBay and see some of the prices attained for ratty older specimens from brands that lasted barely long enough to even plan a dive trip.

Coming back to Seiko, it’s no secret that Seiko has pretty much made a watch for everyone, no matter the function, but it has paid special attention to those who work or seek adventure in an aquatic environment. Seiko, with its title=”Seiko 6159-7010 Grandfather Tuna” href=”http://www.fratellowatches.com/seiko-6159-7010-grandfather-tuna/”>6159 Tuna, introduced a true professional deep diver in the 1970’s made of titanium and without a hydrogen valve. In the late 1970’s, they introduced the world’s first professional diver in quartz. Along the way, many other famous divers have been introduced, such as the legendary 6105 series, the 6309 and today’s fantastic Prospex Series (read about the Seiko MM300 here). But, in all stories, there is always a first, and the first professional diver for Seiko was the legendary 62MAS. Today’s story not only features the Seiko 62MAS, but it features one from the first 2 months of production; a point that will become more germane as the story continues.




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« Απάντηση #6696 στις: Φεβρουάριος 19, 2015, 19:33:06 μμ »
Seiko 62MAS

The 6217-8000/1, which is better known as the Seiko 62MAS (autoMAtic Selfdater) is the first professional series diver from Seiko: period. It is the “ur-diver”, the alpha, the patriarch…you get my point. All professional divers from Seiko owe at least some of their design to this piece and as you can see in the pictures, things like bezel font, dial color, and markers to some degree still bear a familial resemblance in today’s pieces. If you are a Seiko vintage diver collector and you do not own a 62MAS, I’d bet 10:1 that it’s on your list.

In 1965, Seiko decided to enter the professional dive watch market. They clearly saw an opportunity with more recreational divers and a market for the professional set such as welders, etc. Their answer was the purposeful 62MAS. The Seiko 62MAS clocked in at a rather large, for those days, 37mm case and some case size- enhancing, fairly imposing, lugs. It featured a date function, a bi-directional bezel, stronger lume on the hands and markers, and a sizeable crown. It also featured a screw down case back in concert with gaskets at all orifices. When combined, the Seiko 62MAS was rated to 150M of water resistance. While this doesn’t seem like a lot, Seiko’s deepest prior watch was rated only to 50M. Inside sits the 18,000bph non hand wind, non hacking 6217 movement with quick set date. Time adjustment is managed through a non screw-down crown.


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« Απάντηση #6697 στις: Φεβρουάριος 19, 2015, 19:36:10 μμ »
I found this piece, a 6217-8000, on eBay in the fall of 2014. It was a minor bidding war but the price ended up being reasonable for a watch that seemed to register well on my patina meter. When I received it, I was not at all disappointed. However, I noticed some dust under the crystal and after wearing it 2-3 times, I noticed that it suddenly starting gaining about 10 minutes an hour! After a great service, the piece now runs perfectly. What happened next was quite surprising, though. I went to the Seiko Citizen Watch Forum and showed the members my newly serviced catch. What I found out is that this is no “ordinary” Seiko 62MAS. A few messages in, knowledge king Duncan (aka Cannop), commented that my 62MAS appeared to be a “small crown” version that was only made during the first 2 months of production. Further posts compared case backs and, sure enough, the piece is an early model with a typically worn, low relief motif case back. Oh, and per the thread, this case back is actually in decent shape! What’s even more amazing is that this piece somehow survived unaltered and made its way to eBay. Other little things are present on this early piece such as a different crown tube and a lower height bezel than subsequent variations. So, in the end, my gamble turned out to be a good one. For the whole story, see the following thread: http://www.thewatchsite.com/21-japanese-watch-discussion-forum/138746-62mas-returns-home-last.html

The Seiko 62MAS wears well, but it’s not a massive piece. In fact, it’s more slender than a Rolex Submariner both in width and height (13.5mm). I’ve paired it with many types of straps, but I think it looks best on a waffle strap, a Tropic, or some type of NATO. Due to the strap pairings and heavy patina, it’s certainly more of a casual watch.

Buying a Seiko 62MAS can be an adventure. They are far prevalent than later models such as the 6159 (in any guise) and 6215 but finding a good one is still challenging. There are loads of aftermarket components on the market, such as dials, bezels, crystals, hands, and even crowns. This makes finding an original 62MAS without any of these aftermarket parts difficult. Then, due to the high chance of lume degradation, there are classic debates about whether to relume or not. For me, it’s a no go, but others find it acceptable. Original hands, though, can be found by harvesting them from other models, which is a bit of a shame if you ask me, but it is an option (see the picture of the 6619 and tell me you’d sacrifice that beautiful piece). Movements are relatively simple to service but certain parts like stems can be difficult. In fact, I am told that issues like a broken quick set are very problematic to fix. Values seem to range in the $1200 – $2500 area depending highly on condition. The market, unlike the Rolex market for example, does not yet seem to differentiate on variations like the small crown piece I own, but it does not care for overly altered pieces. As an example, a skilled relume carries more than use of aftermarket parts. Like most vintage watches, the Seiko 62MAS is rising in value and I’ve even recently seen very rough pieces selling for over $800. The forums, as always, are a great place to vet any potential pieces.

I hope you enjoyed learning a little about Seiko’s first diver. For the Seiko collector or even the general vintage watch connoisseur, the Seiko 62MAS is a significant piece to consider. Sure, it lacks some of the innovations and features of models such as similar period Submariners or Seamasters but there’s something satisfying about owning the first of a now legendary line of watches.


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« Απάντηση #6698 στις: Φεβρουάριος 20, 2015, 01:05:06 πμ »



Φιλικά .......Γιωργος
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« Απάντηση #6699 στις: Φεβρουάριος 20, 2015, 07:07:48 πμ »
Ωραία ποστ Γιώργο! 
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« Απάντηση #6700 στις: Φεβρουάριος 20, 2015, 09:21:10 πμ »
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« Απάντηση #6701 στις: Φεβρουάριος 20, 2015, 10:31:41 πμ »
Seiko Watch. Customer Salon In Tokyo

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